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星期二, 十一月 06, 2007

记账

1,又觉得要把每日的花费记录下来了。于是上课回来后,搜索“记账网站”,在第二页发现了一个叫“蘑菇网”的,网站定位是:专注于个人(家庭)的在线记账理财。

以前用过一些记账网站,不好。

今天第一次用蘑菇网,感觉不错,功能完善,强大,不花哨,不门户。开始记账时,要经过一些设置,设置好以后,就可以方便的记录流水账了。

很好,很强大。

2,我家是农村的,那里离银行远,离邮局近。来上学时,爸妈帮忙办了一张邮政绿卡。我的花费,多数来自于那张卡。

下午记账时,想不起绿卡里还有多少余额了,以前都是在ATM机上看,于是想,可不可以网上查看呢?

答案是,可以。

登录一个 http://money.183.com.cn ,开通网上支付,就可以了。

不过,我这里访问那个叫“中国邮政全国支付网关”的网站,速度超慢,和生活中中国邮政的服务速度一脉相承。

可是,中国邮政很贵的快递服务(EMS),则真的很快。

前天在南昌一个邮局邮寄一个包裹,服务员说:“要快的还是要慢的,快的现在就办理,20元起价,慢的价格不知道,那边排队办理去。”

慢的据说15天左右,而且,据我当时的观察,想办理慢的,光排队都要排上一个小时。

好吧,我办理快的。

结果,第二天包裹就从江西南昌送到了河南焦作。

快的真快,他们请刘翔做代言人很恰当——跑得很快,要价很高。

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星期五, 十月 12, 2007

注定成不了大器的豆瓣

这是一个哗众取宠的题目。

但是,除非豆瓣来一次大换血,经历一次“整风运动”,否则,豆瓣之成不了大器,就是即将到来的事实。

当Google茁壮成长但不够强大的时候,有人已经觉察到了“威胁”。这时候,有人站出来“开导”他们,说“Google is not the enemy”,Google 可以给你免费带来流量,而且你只要有真本事并遵守Google订的规矩,好日子就还在后面呢。

当Google 长成了,行业大哥大的地位确立了,还有人“勇敢地”要和Google拼一把。这时候,明白人看着心疼,于是也站出来开导,说:“Google is not your competition, Google is the environment.想明白啊,在1950年-1980年之间,你和IBM对着干能行吗?1984-1998,找微软拼命,也是找死嘛。而现在,现在的天下是Google的,围绕Google已经孕育出一个互联网生态系统,多少人的真金白银联着Google,那可是一荣俱荣,一损俱损呢。形势比人强,玩儿点别的去吧。

现在我们说豆瓣。

今天收到一封豆邮,有“垃圾邮件”的性质,推荐我一个叫做“缤豆”的网站——
缤纷多彩的“缤”,豆瓣的“豆”。(叉开一句,豆邮的黑名单功能推出也够慢的)简单的说,这就是一个寄生于豆瓣的网站,虽然他们主站点的“关于缤豆”对豆瓣只字未提。

为什么会出现这样的网站?

两个原因:一,豆瓣的出现,挖掘出了很多潜在的需求,其他人看到了;二,豆瓣发掘出来的需求,豆瓣自己还不能很好的满足,所以其他人看到了可乘之机,甚至借助豆瓣本身的平台进行推广。

这让我想到方兴东——他引入“博客”这个概念,创建“博客中国”还拉到一大笔投资,几年下来却在BSP(博客服务提供商)涌起的大潮中淹没了下去,像新浪邮箱一样,成为互联网圈子里的“典型”。

豆瓣的前途如何呢?

堪忧啊堪忧,理由有三:

其一,网站方向不明晰。起于书影视歌,却不能深耕需求;长于聚集人群,却近乌合之众;乱于旅游“九点”“广播”,却不知舍弃、不善整合。
其二,团队弱。从开始杨勃一个人到现在的一队人,网站的架构和功能始终没有显著的改进。很多需求,网站都满足不了。
其三,氛围热烈的不对头。网站上热闹的是小组,最热闹的是灌水、聚人气的小组,和网站的核心产品——书影视歌相差甚远。

具体的问题,很多人已经分析的够多了,比如无线娱乐的“当上豆瓣不再时髦”。

以一棵树做比,方向是树根,团队及其构架的网站是树干,成员氛围是枝叶和果子。

每次谈论豆瓣,我都喜欢拿Google做类比,虽然他们规模、影响等还不是一个层次。但事在人为,Facebook在推出F8平台计划之前,也不过是校园里的Myspace,但在自我定位成“社会操作系统”之后,人气和前景就直逼Google了。据说,Google不久后要召开会议,讨论所谓“Facebook问题”。微软抛出橄榄枝Myspace要跟进,这些都是对Facebook的直接赞美。

但目前的豆瓣变成“博客中国”的可能性更大——根不正,树干弱而钝,枝叶繁杂、果子青涩。

更糟糕的是:一,豆瓣融到了钱,作为成长的肥料——如果根本错了,长得快死得快;二,豆瓣现在已经从与网络商店的图书销售分成中获得了收入,不多,但,有肉吃了,于是生存压力不紧迫了,“死士”就少了,改进的动力也就弱了。

不是说必须有外力逼着你,成功才有可能。最根本的力量还是源于内心,但外无强敌,内无锐意进取之心,则必不成器。

试问豆瓣有锐意进取之心吗?进取心嘛,矫枉过正一下,杨勃倒可以学学陈一舟

豆瓣照现在这么长下去,若杨勃不固执,前路一为被收购进而整合,一为死一次,如果像凤凰一样涅磐重生,则皆大欢喜,真的死翘翘了,历史前进的大车依然滚滚向前,很快于枯枝腐叶下会更挺拔的玉树萌芽。

如果杨勃固执,一则不买,二则不该,那我们只能可惜地说一句:Douban is dead.

另外,不要认为我对豆瓣有什么大大的偏见。大偏见是绝对没有的,有的只是对于杨勃微不足道的小偏见,比如我认为“阿北”这个名号很糟糕,以及不敢苟同他在新华网访谈时的一些观点(和豆瓣无关)。
我针对豆瓣说这么多,是因为豆瓣确实给我们创造了价值,解决了很多问题,让我们的生活多了一些乐趣。但,我们要思进取、谋发展、力创新啊!

年少轻狂,加之人微言轻,且当比特一堆吧。

参考阅读:豆瓣要想清楚打算干嘛

同步发表于Live Spaces:FCme,无法直接访问blogspot的读者可点击访问。

谁能送我一份“百度指数”的邀请函?


我想用百度指数,作为一个市场营销专业的学生,我觉得那会是一个有价值的工具。

在百度指数刚发布的时候,就想有一个了。不过后来忙着玩儿其他的有趣网站就淡忘了。不久前看到百度一卡通的广告,招商银行和百度合作,推广它的一卡通——岔开一句,招商银行在推广它的卡类产品方面可谓合作广泛啊,从腾迅的QQ卡到NBA明星卡到MSN纪念卡到百事“上罐”运动一卡通,单这一点,就比五大银行高几层楼了。

百度一卡通,除了具有一卡通的普遍功能外,有一个吸引我的地方:送一个百度指数帐户。

百度一卡通的网站说8月9号之后,在招行北京各网点就可以办理了。

可是,可是,言不副实啊——我今天下午到招行的一个网点询问能否办理“百度一卡通”,营业员回答,现在还不能办理,至于什么时候可以办理,他也不知道——说话时,嘴角带着诡异的微笑。

好吧,那么,谁可以送我一份“百度指数”的邀请呢?
提前谢谢啦,好心人。

星期二, 九月 11, 2007

新的图书销售商业模式

一个公司,大睿文化传播公司,投资建设了一个“小”网站,书谷关于他们),致力于“创建和谐社会的知识分享体系”——好正的目标!

书谷的商业模式比较有意思,具体可以看蓝皮火车的这篇文章:书谷的长尾实践。

另外,那个公司,大睿文化传播公司,似乎还拥有两个网站,其中一个是很超前的个性印刷网站:超印速(Mprint)

看起来这个公司蛮大胆的。

星期三, 四月 25, 2007

Web2.0 is not India and Mobile2.0 there is still young

文章翻译一则:
在印度,上网依然困难,而你怎么能指望一个赶到网吧去拨号上网的人会谈论自己的琐碎生活以消磨时间,而且,人们也不习惯去表现自己,“那是美国人干的事情”。

解决这个本质区别的一个可行思路是:针对人们的需求来发明一个产品,围绕该产品的社区就会自然形成。

基本上,在印度的互联网世界,没有社会性网络这回事,事实是学会如何建设社区。

然而Mobile2.0正应运而生,虽然长大还要再过些时候。

1.5亿手机用户,只有200万开通了GPRS。其中,城区用户开通率为52%,乡村地区为7-8%。移动互联网应用会出现,但事实上,其市场规模不是5亿,而是2500-3000万。5亿人的市场,等到Avnish Bajaj退休了再指望吧。
印度市场,还处在增长的早期阶段。


1,意译自 Web2.0 is not for India
2,Avnish Bajaj, co-founder and Managing Director of Matrix India (the $150-million India fund of Matrix Partners, a global venture capital company)。
3,个人阅读笔记,请以原文为准。

星期六, 十二月 02, 2006

豆瓣blog确认测试

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为了在豆瓣声明拥有这个Blog(Future as Past),我需要在此发布一篇含有一条代码的日志。

豆瓣做blog的整理和互动,是为了什么?单单的增加用户粘性?增加用户粘性目的又何在?

根据杨勃接受新华网访谈时说的话推断,在这个即将结束的2006和到来的2007,我估计豆瓣会有很多的动作。

说到何时盈利的问题,种豆的人们表示不着急;照目前的情况看,他们也确实有实力继续坚持——无论是用户的忠诚度,还是资本的储备。

希望他们不会等太久。虽然不曾指望豆瓣给Web2.0创造一个可圈可点的商业模式,但是,我也不希望看到受人喜欢的Web2.0服务无法盈利——没有商业利润的刺激,进入的资本就会少的可怜,而创新、进步也就无从谈起。在这个问题上,我是认同经济学“自私”的假设的。

p.s.也许是下午的时候,Blogger完成了简体中文的转换,并“主动”为我从英语切换到了简体中文。最近,Google做了很多这样的小动作。大动作呢?对JotSpot的整合,什么时候会结束呢?

星期五, 十二月 01, 2006

Aggregation (not Content) is king.

Chris:
The common misconception these days is that services like YouTube are Web 2.0. This is only partially correct. Uploading your work to a site, rating it, sharing it - these are not new concepts. Sites/Services like DeviantArt have been doing it since Web 1.0.

People are talking about the word 'Community' like it represents the spirit of Web 2.0. Community was one of the buzzwords of the Web 1.0 bubble. It is not new.

The new part is that YouTube lets you embed your video on other sites and access their content via RSS. These are both forms of syndication.

So if syndication is the main new feature (and not community or user-generated content) then the main new tool must be aggregation.

But aggregation is a means to an end. When a user is able to access content on their own terms another much more fundamental trend reveals itself. Personalization.

Every feature typically associated with Web 2.0 (blogs, syndication, rating, digging, ajax) is actually about allowing greater Personalization by putting the user at the centre of their experience.

星期四, 十一月 30, 2006

Europe:Dot-com boom vs Web2.0

Doug Clinton:
It seems to me that at least part of the reason for the level of activity in Europe is the difference in financial model for Web 2.0. The dot-com boom was all about investing a lot of money, developing fast and then going for IPO. Burn rates for dot-coms were legendary and the capital was available on the basis that the investors would reap huge rewards on flotation. This, of course, meant that access to the much more flexible and willing US stock markets was very important.

Web 2.0 seems to be going about things differently. Companies are starting up on shoestring budgets and the exit strategy seems to be to be bought by Google, or some other cash-rich survivor of the last boom. The hardware and software necessary to get an idea off the ground is now trivially cheap in comparison to six years ago so the major cost is people. That means that two or three people who are willing to invest their own time in developing an idea can come up with something innovative and viable in a few months so access to a lot of liquid capital is not as necessary.

星期二, 十一月 28, 2006

雅虎中国的死脑筋

1,如果我的假设即“谢文任职雅虎中国是去做门户的”,是部分正确的,那么,他这么快离开,简单的说,有两种可能:其一,谢文在那儿干,不行;其二,雅虎中国,谢文来了也不行。

2,谢文走了,马云可能再找一个可以做起门户的人——这个人是曾鸣吗?对曾鸣的互联网本事一无所知,但如果雅虎中国还要做门户,如果谢文是因为第二个推测而离职而去,那么,无论找谁都是浪费时间。

3,我从雅虎中国对马云的价值出发考虑,得到的结果是:只要跳出“做一个用户庞大的门户网站”这样的思维陷阱,许多问题就迎刃而解了。培养庞大的用户群,其方法多种多样,而打理好雅虎中国,就可能真的像keso所说,没可能了。

4,不做Web2.0时代的王者门户,转向做Web2.0时代的王者,马云有的是时间,因为Web2.0时代的王者是什么,还没人知道。雅虎中国怎么办?就让它来做转型的工作嘛,技术、用户、资源,说起来情况都要比大多数Web2.0网站好得多。

5,写到这里,我一直持有的假设是,雅虎中国掉在那个思维陷阱里,还在骄傲着挣扎。所以,我的题目才说,他们是死脑筋。不过,至于他们究竟怎么想的,就只有他们自己知道了——不过谁在乎?如果结果终究是一死,你自己怎么想都毫无意义。

医学上似乎有说法,脑死亡才算真死,而对于死脑筋,他们是怎么看的呢?

星期四, 九月 28, 2006

清洁工困境

你想要找人帮我打扫房间 现在,在半个街区内,肯定有人合适这份活。 但是.....

1. 他们没有通过互联网发布他们的广告
2. 他们也没有进入黄页等分类信息里面
3. 他们通过口碑的方式被人知晓
4. 他们也许就在为你的邻居服务,但你不知道

而事实上,有一个合适的答案,但是你找不到它。 如果你用google 搜索“Cleaner Chesterfield”,结果有248,000 个,但是你只要一个! 问题出在那里呢? google 对待信息是“平等”的,对待个体是一样。 它只能通过我敲入的字判断,而不是我的背景。此时此地的我。


Hamlet翻译了一篇极好的文章,其中提到了这样一个案例,我称之为“清洁工困境”。现有所有引擎的一个问题是,搜索结果太多了,而我们常常只需要一个——当然,也有时候我们是要看到尽可能多的相关结果。

文章还有一些极为精彩的观点,推荐一看。

星期日, 九月 24, 2006

一个精彩的观点

aBrowser is navigational. You'll notice that aBrowser does not have any navigational buttons, saving you desktop real estate. That is because aBrowser believes web sites should be self-navigational. If you are a web site designer, then you will love aBrowser. By testing your web site with aBrowser, yon will uncover navigational deficiencies in your web site. Thus, aBrowser also serves as a tool to help you improve your web site.


在使用YouOS的时候,发现了一个叫做aBrowser的微型浏览器。看他们自己的介绍,上面的话尤其精彩。

可是有一个漏洞,那就是,我在浏览一个自我导航性很好的网站时,通过链接来到了一个自我导航很差的站点,我该怎么办呢?呵呵,看来,这种浏览器用来检视网站还好,用作浏览的话,还是有不足的。毕竟,现在常常要链接出去的。

星期一, 九月 11, 2006

Web2.0的未来何在?

宋新宇博士的文章,《真实社区网络是Web2.0未来》写得不错,其中有一些看法十分到位,但某些观点我不敢苟同,摘录评述如下:

博客“三宗罪”说的没错,可这么批评博客就像去掉所有的拓展来批评Firefox一样,有点挑刺的感觉。博客只是一个支点,通过这个支点我们能做什么才是关键所在。

宋博士为了强调自己推崇的社区网络的重要性,拿博客做了一回羊羔。

Web2.0的特质

从社会性(Social)、网络性(Network)、技术性(Solution)3方面来说,是很清晰的一个角度,其中关键点有:

“社会性引发真实互动,及由此产生社会监督”,
“大众智慧的Ranking、Rating及Reviewing表现形式”,
“Web2.0技术和理念上的双重革命”等。

最重要一点:“我们需要在网上建立自己的VI (Vitural Identity)——虚拟但是真实的个人身份。只有这样,我们才能在互联网世界里延续及扩充我们在线下享受的信任和成功。”

Web2.0的未来在哪里?

宋博士认为,在社会网络。

错。Web2.0未来不在博客,同样不在社会网络。

我的回答是:在社会,在网络
什么意思?自己思考一下吧,我这只是一个参考答案。客观参考答案自然要短要少,除非我要用这个想法做生意,像宋博士,哈。

宋博士的一个会引起糟糕理解的说法是:
“如果你的网站能真正给会员带来价值,如果你能成为一类人或一个社区的“Owner”,在你为成员服务的时候收费是一个非常自然的事情。
Web 2.0盈利模式问题的解决其实是要我们回答每个企业都要回答的问题:你真的为你的客户提供了有价值的东西了吗?如果是,就向他们要钱吧!谁都知道,世界上没有免费的午餐。”

这话说的牛气,从理论上讲也是正确的,可是,做起来远不是说起来的样子,要更多的想象力,而不是硬生生的要钱。否则,也是死路一条。

知道(而不是相信),将来成功的社会网络绝对不是OpenBC的样子。在我看来,宋博士的OpenBC不过是现在商业社会里的校友会、俱乐部的网络形式而已。

未来会更精彩。

星期二, 九月 05, 2006

The Characteristics of Now-New-Near Web(Part 2)

More Mobile-centric, less PC-centric: I believe that mobiles are what will accelerate the emergence of the N3 Web – both for content creation and consumption. Mobiles are with us all the time, and thus can be used both for creation (taking pictures, recording podcasts) and distribution (think subscribers). RSS can be the underlying carrier for this. The same can be accomplished via PCs – and in fact is already happening. In the context of emerging markets, mobiles will take centre-stage.

More Push, less Pull: The Reference Web is all about pulling information in a request-reply mechanism. The Incremental Web is about delivering the right information at the right time to the right device. Thus, I can get an SMS alert when a stock price crosses a threshold or when Tendulkar comes out to bat. Sending the same info to a PC or asking people to keep reloading the page is simply not practical.

Distributed, Bottom-up Publishing: The N3 Web is about empowering each one of us to publish because we have the tools to do so. Since much of this web is non-existent, the only way it will get created rapidly is with mass publishing.

User in control: With RSS, the user is in control. There is no question of any spam. If a user is not interesting in continuing the relationship, the user can simply unsubscribe to the RSS feed of the source.

RSS Aggregator Use: The N3 Web will be consumed in two primary ways – via alerts delivered to mobiles or PCs, and via an RSS Aggregator. The aggregator tracks what subscriptions users have, and what has been read by a user.

Ping Server, not Crawler: From an infrastructure standpoint, the web page crawlers get replaced by ping servers. Whenever there is new content published, the source pings a server which can then go fetch the new content and then notify users.

The post by Bill Burnham also elaborates on the infrastructure needed:


1. Ping Servers: Most blogs and an increasing number of other sites now send special “pings” to so called “Ping Servers” every time they publish new content. The ping servers do things such as cue crawlers at a search engine to re-index a site or provide a summarized list of recently published information to other web sites. Because ping servers are the first to know about newly published content, they are critical to enabling the real-time nature of Persistent Search.

2. RSS: RSS feeds can be used both to feed raw information into Persistent Search platforms (in a similar fashion to what GoogleBase does) as well as to take processed queries out. RSS is a polling based mechanism so it does not provide real time notification, but it is good enough in most cases.

3. Stored Queries: Stored queries are simply search queries that are “saved” for future use. Ideally, the stored query is constantly running in the background and it flags any new piece of content that meets the search criteria.
Two related concepts which will help us understand the N3 Web better are microcontent and microformats.

The Characteristics of Now-New-Near Web(Part 1)

RJ 昨天和今天写了两篇,论述了他所说的增强型Web(the now-new-near web,N3)的特质。2日志分别全文转录如下,看不懂英文的同学们,想想别的办法吧,翻译工作,我觉得自己做的话得不偿失。

Here are some characteristics that make the Incremental (N3) Web different:

RSS, not HTML: HTML is the foundation for the Reference Web as we know it. The page as defined by a URL is the granularity of this Web. It is a Web that we need to go to. Over time, our access to this Web has evolved from typing in URLs to remembering bookmarks to using directories to using search engines. In contrast, the Incremental Web is built around RSS – an XML format that is published to be read by computers. It carries the payload for what is new on a site. It allows changes to be tracked.

Subscriptions, not Search: With HTML, the best we can do in terms of remembering a site is bookmarks. Bookmarks had gone out of fashion because of search engines, but group tagging and sharing services like del.icio.us are bringing them back to life. Search engines remain the predominant way one finds information in the world of the Reference Web. With RSS, however, a new form of access is possible. This revolves around Subscriptions. Subscriptions are akin to setting up a form of relationship with content or a site, such that future published content can be delivered to subscribers.

Persistent Search: A related idea is that of persistent search. Here is how Bill Burnham explains it:


Simply put, Persistent Search allows users to enter a search query just once and then receive constant, near real-time, automatic updates whenever new content that meets their search criteria is published on the web. For example, let’s say you are a stock trader and you want to know whenever one of the stocks in your portfolio is mentioned on the web. By using a persistent search query, you can be assured that you will receive a real-time notification whenever one of your stocks is mentioned. Or perhaps you are a teenager who is a rabid fan of a rock group. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a constant stream of updates on band gossip, upcoming concerts, and new albums flowing to your mobile phone? Or maybe you are just looking to rent the perfect apartment or buy a specific antique. Wouldn’t it be nice to get notified as soon as new items which roughly matched your criteria were listed on the web so that you were able to respond before someone else beat you to the punch? Persistent search makes all of this possible for end users with very little incremental effort.

Persistent Search presents search companies with the opportunity to build rich, persistent relationships with their users. The search engine that captures a user’s persistent searches will not only have regular, automatic exposure to that user, but they will be able to build a much better understanding of the unique needs and interests of that user which should theoretically enable them to sell more relevant ads and services at higher prices. They will also stand a much better chance of capturing all or most of that users’ ad-hoc queries because they will already be in regular contact with the user.

Paul Graham的采访

来自Techcrunch采访摘要:

我给创始人的忠告是:不要在一开始就急着形成自己的商业模式。开始时最重要的工作,是做出人们想要的东西。如果你没有这么做,多完美的商业模式都无济于事。


自然,到最后你必须形成自己的商业模式。不过迄今为止的经验都表明,和使某样东西流行相比起来,如何从流行的东西中赚钱要简单的多。

当我告诉创业者首先要专注与创造伟大的产品或服务,而不是担忧怎么赚钱的时候,得到的是无数批评。然而,这恰恰是Google所做的。这方面例子,还有Apple。你应该思考那些令人信服的榜样。

全文翻译自Rajesh Jain的blog:Emergic
update:9月6日 23:24,“不是”——“不过”,谢谢wei的指正。

星期一, 八月 28, 2006

技术的变化与社会的变化

斯塔夫里阿诺斯

人类历史中的许多灾难都源于这样一个事实,即社会的变化总是远远落后于技术的变化。这是不难理解的,因为人们十分自然地欢迎和采纳那些能提高生产率和生活水平的新技术;但是,人们却拒绝接受新技术所必须的社会变化,因为采纳新思想、新制度和新做法总是令人不快的。今天,第一世界、第二世界和第三世界的人民已发觉自己陷入了困境,当今技术革命和技术革命所需要的相应的社会革命之间的时间滞差是造成这一困境的一个根本原因。”

现在的状况似乎并不比斯氏写下上面文字的年代好多少,尽管Tim早就说过“我们着实处在这样的边缘:网络是一切的中心”("We're really at the stage where the Net is the center of everything")。抛开blogger圈子里热炒的Web2.0概念和互联网上热烈的进行的Web革命,现实的世界似乎变化不大。
不过,也许这次我们可以平稳的进行时间滞差带来的灾难过渡,至少希望如此。

给人们燃料!


Dion Hinchcliffe说:...需要指出的一点就是,无论他是你的顾客还是雇员,你将工具交到他们手中,他们自身的兴趣就像燃料那样会带给他们创造的动力,其结果就是你会得到大量的并且相关的创造性的内容输出。这个被称之为边缘网络的创新,大家都在学习使用参与的架构来设计自己的网站,尝试着用它来叩开 这种疯狂现象的大门。

这点,是Web2.0应用的关键所在,也是网络发展的必然方向。

星期三, 八月 23, 2006

Conversation on Web2.0

A 24 minutes documentary on web2.0 and more (via Fast Company Now), with topics as follow:
  1. What is Web 2.0?
  2. Are we in a bubble?
  3. What are the business models that will work on the web today?
  4. What is the role of publishers in a user generated world?
  5. How important and how big is the early adopter crowd?

Participants included
Joe Kraus (Jotspot),
Scott Milener (Browster),
David Sifry (Technorati),
Auren Hoffman (Rapleaf),
Chris Alden (Rojo),
Jonathan Abrams (Socializr),
Aaron Cohen (Bolt),
Jeremy Verba (Piczo),
Steven Marder (Eurekster),
Matt Sanchez (Video Egg),
Godhwani (Simply Hired),
Keith Teare (edgeio),
and Michael Tanne (Wink).

You can also watch the movie by clicking here:)

星期日, 八月 20, 2006

Web2.0 means more than just web

As Tim O'Railly says,

"Well, Web 2.0 is really not just about the web. It's really about the next generation of internet applications, and includes things like P2P file sharing and VoIP, which aren't based on the web at all. And actually, now that I mention it, it's really not even about the internet, narrowly defined as a class of TCP/IP-based networks. It's really about the internet as it was originally conceived, as a 'network of networks.'"

Tim然后追溯了Internet的起源,提出不要忘记Internet广义的含意,并且,我们现在做的,是

" pushing the boundaries of the old internet, as it comes to include the cellphone network, telematics networks, and other emerging forms of connectivity."